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I'm Gonna Take the Linux Plunge, Advice?

Submitted by Midnight on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 6:49pm.

My laptop of 2003 has become sufficiently bogged down again that it's time for its occasional wipe and reinstall of the OS. Since XBL and getting my desktop I don't use it much anymore, just for basic email and web surfing, and occasionally to browse or edit an office document. This got me thinking: I can satisfy two things by installing Linux:
1. Get a faster and more secure OS that I probably won't have to wipe once every 12-18 months.
2. Play with this Linux thing I keep hearing so much about

Questions:
1. I currently print from my laptop through my LAN to a printer connected to my desktop using a Windows home network. Will this be an impossibility after Linux?
2. Am I likely to have any driver issues with things like the onboard video?
3. Anything else I should know before diving in? I suppose Ubuntu is the way to go?

Mintz's picture

Don't know about your first

Don't know about your first two questions, but Ubuntu is the way to go. It's really easy to install, and it comes with Firefox, which is pretty much all you need.

Quote: 1. I currently print

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1. I currently print from my laptop through my LAN to a printer connected to my desktop using a Windows home network. Will this be an impossibility after Linux?

No you can do this, and Ubuntu makes this pretty easy.

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2. Am I likely to have any driver issues with things like the onboard video?

Video driers are usually not the problem. As ATI, Nvidia, and Intel, the majority of graphics card, play nice with Linux. Wireless cards, on the other hand, have notoriously poor support. Simply because, the companies who make them don't release Linux drivers and don't release specs of any kind. So Linux developers have to reverse engineer their products.

It maybe worth doing a little searching. But remember you can test Ubuntu just by booting up the install CD. It is a Live CD, meaning you can boot up Ubuntu and run it from the CD without any installation.

Overall though, Linux out of the box has FAR FAR superior driver support than any version of Windows ever. Tell you the truth it isn't even close. However hardware companies put Windows drivers they've made on their websites and CDs shipped with their products. Linux has no such luck.

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3. Anything else I should know before diving in?

Don't expect Ubuntu to be Windows. Whether that be good or bad.

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I suppose Ubuntu is the way to go?

Also, I'd highly recommend Ubuntu.

If you have any questions, you can hit me up whenever.

Oculus's picture

I like Ubuntu as well. If

I like Ubuntu as well.

If you've got the Windows CD and a lot of hard drive space, you might as well do a dual boot.. install Windows first, then install Ubuntu. That way you've still got that crutch to fall back on if you end up needing something off the wall that doesn't have an open source counterpart.

99% of my OS usage is Linux and 1% is off the wall stuff that requires Windows.

The only distributions I've really used much are Ubuntu and Redhat. Ubuntu seems more aimed towards usability and has a bit of a different polish to it. That's why lots of people prefer it.

Midnight's picture

Installed it last night and

Installed it last night and am having two issues:

1. Can't print. I can add the printer as a SAMBA printer over the network, and when I print a test page the printer receives the job, but it never prints. It sits there forever processing.

2. External monitor has grainy video. When I move the mouse across a menu it introduces horizontal "static" (for lack of a more accurate term) into the background. This may be the laptop's chipset getting old. It did something similar with XP, but nowhere near as badly. It's almost unusable now. I tried every conceivable option from the screens and monitors menu to no avail. I even edited my xorg? file to get the resolution right. I'm stumped on this one.

Other than that I like the OS. As I've said, my expectations for this computer are very minimal, so it should perform well.

Midnight wrote:1. Can't

Midnight wrote:
1. Can't print. I can add the printer as a SAMBA printer over the network, and when I print a test page the printer receives the job, but it never prints. It sits there forever processing.

Make sure you have the all the updates. Beyond that I'm not sure. You can check the Samba log files. They'll probably tell you a little more.

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2. External monitor has grainy video. When I move the mouse across a menu it introduces horizontal "static" (for lack of a more accurate term) into the background. This may be the laptop's chipset getting old. It did something similar with XP, but nowhere near as badly. It's almost unusable now. I tried every conceivable option from the screens and monitors menu to no avail. I even edited my xorg? file to get the resolution right. I'm stumped on this one.

Sounds like your refresh rate is low? Maybe increase it?

Oculus's picture

what's the make and model of

what's the make and model of your printer.

the monitor problem seems like it's probably not fixable if you've got the same problem on XP

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Midnight's picture

Printer is an HP 5510

Printer is an HP 5510 All-in-one. All updates are applied (that I can download through update manager).

Oc, I am bewildered why the problem was a minor annoyance under XP, but makes the external monitor unusable with Ubuntu. When I say minor, I mean that it was barely noticeable if you didn't look for it.

Oculus's picture

Jeff, did you try these

Jeff, did you try these printer drivers for linux? HP points you to http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/index.html

Note: it may require "root" access... if you need help, just give a ring or get ahold of me on IM.

essentially, if you know how to use the terminal, download the file to your desktop. Open up the terminal and navigate to your desktop by typeing "cd Desktop", then, instead of using the command they give you, add "sudo" to the beginning and type "sudo sh hplip-2.8.2.run"

sudo just logs you on as root while performing the commands that follow, just type in your root password you entered during installation.

sorry if you already know this stuff, I'm just giving a rundown if you don't yet.

you may also first try the search string "HPLIP" in your package manager.

the video problem might require a bit more digging

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Ubuntu

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ub

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gs-esp/+bug/109205

Also installing HPLIP as Oculus suggested may work, as those drivers may support bidirectional printing. You don't have to install them that way though.

Use Synaptic instead.

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Synaptic_Package_Manager

Just search for hplip using Synaptic.

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