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My New PC

Submitted by Mintz on Tue, 07/10/2007 - 10:11pm.

http://techreport.com/etc/2007q3/system-guide-0707/index.x?pg=2

What do you guys think of the setup? I'm thiiiiiis close to buying it.

Update:
Other than the case, I bought everything you see in the link above. The case I got instead is here. It should all be here Monday!

I also bought this monitor.

Since this will be the first PC I ever put together, I have a few questions.

I'm going to overclock my CPU. It's notorious for overclocking in the 2.9GHz-3.1GHz range. I've researched overclocking extensively, but I'm still confused about a couple things. I know I have to go into the BIOS to up the FSB and multiplier, but is the BIOS also where I up the voltage to the CPU as well?

Also, if your CPU is locked, how do you unlock it? All the guides I've seen say "If your CPU is locked, you have to unlock it first. Next, you have to blahblahblabh..."
Edit: Figured it out. It depends on when it was manufactured. The easiest way to find out is to just change your multiplier in the BIOS and see if it sticks.

That's about it. I'll probably think of more later.

rapture's picture

What do you expect to do

What do you expect to do with the computer? How you use it will determine if that config will be good for you and your expectations.

Mintz's picture

I plan on surfing the

I plan on surfing the interweb, playing a few games (don't know how it'd handle newer games), Photoshopping, and having a million applications open at once.

Midnight's picture

Computer

Looks like a good overall system. If you add a tuner card and some software you'd have a nice DVR, but I don't know if that's what you're looking for.

rapture's picture

Component Item Price Pro

Component Item Price
Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ $63.50
Motherboard Asus M2N4-SLI $86.99
Memory Corsair 2GB ValueSelect DDR2-667 $79.99
Graphics eVGA GeForce 8600 GT $114.99
Storage Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB $74.99
Samsung SH-S183L $37.99
Audio Nvidia nForce 500 (Integrated) $0
Enclosure Antec NSK 4400 w/380W PSU $79.99
Total
Buy this complete system at Newegg
$538.44

Then for the money, it seems like a good system. You'll get what you pay for.

I would guess that this system would be easy to upgrade, also.

Mintz's picture

The article says that the

The article says that the CPU is regularly overclocked to 3.0 GHz, which seems like plenty.

As far as upgrading video cards go, would this one last me long enough? What with SLI and DirectX 10 cards being all the rage, I'm just wondering if this card will last longer than a year or two. And a question about DX10 cards: Can a card be SLI and NOT have DX10 and vice versa?

Having the laptop since 7th grade has me kinda hyped that I change what I want, when I want.

Mintz's picture

Updated the main post.

Updated the main post.

Mintz's picture

This. Computer. Is. Awesome.

This. Computer. Is. Awesome.

But does it give you amazing

But does it give you amazing brownies? I think not!

DJ

Mintz's picture

Well, do you?? Yes, yes you

Well, do you??

Yes, yes you do.

Midnight's picture

Brownies

Both of you have the strangest brownie relationship I've ever seen.

Just out of curiosity, how

Just out of curiosity, how many brownie relationships have you seen?

Good question Rev

And once one has witnessed a number of strange brownie relationships, how does one go about determining which one is the strangest?

THX SHYZZA's picture

Hmm..

dirtyJ wrote:
But does it give you amazing brownies? I think not!

DJ


THX SHYZZA

Are you suggesting Mintz play with you instead of his new computer?

Tsk, tsk

Why do you have to go making this all weird?

BikiniSyrup's picture

This reminds me of the time

This reminds me of the time me and mintz went to the mall...

Midnight's picture

Brownies

Someone bakes/buys some brownies and someone else partakes of them == 1 brownie relationship.

Estimated number I've seen in my day: ~250

Why this one is weird: they keep going on and on about it. Were the brownies laced with marijuana or something? Why is it so frickin special that DJ gave Mintz some brownies. I don't get it.

Mintz's picture

Did you eat the brownies?

Did you eat the brownies? No, no you didn't. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Wonder why EA hasn't partaken in this discussion? Because he's had the brownies. He understands.

Now he's going to chime in and say how wrong I am, but I know I'm right.

rapture's picture

No, Mintz is right.

Yes, it is true. I have had relations with those brownies.

Slayer's picture

…wow.

...wow.

Midnight's picture

Ah Ha

If it's the brownies that EA brought to work then yes, I have had them, and I thought they were a little too rich.

Mintz's picture

Blasphemer. And yes, EA is

Blasphemer. And yes, EA is the greatest person in the world because he's the one who brought the brownies.

D15AV0W3D's picture

GPUs

I have the same mobo (M2N4-SLI), and similar video card (xfx GeForce 8600). If and when I want better graphics, I'll probably just buy another identical video card when it comes down in price, and run them in SLI.

To my knowledge, two GPUs must be of the same chipset for SLI to work.

Mintz's picture

I’ve been able to

I've been able to overclock my CPU to 2.2GHz. Not as much as I was hoping, but it should be enough for a while.

rapture's picture

What kind of cooling are you

What kind of cooling are you running? What's the temp of the case and the CPU? You ARE monitoring the temperature right? I say this because I don't want you to destroy the CPU and/or mobo by an incorrect setting.

rapture's picture

“To my knowledge, two GPUs

"To my knowledge, two GPUs must be of the same chipset for SLI to work."

Yep. You can't run ATi cards in Crossfire on an nVidia chipset. You can't run nVidia cards in SLI on an ATi chipset.

I heart ATi, but I wanted the Striker Extreme motherboard which runs an nVidia chipset. I would never be able to run two ATi cards in Crossfire. That's OK, because nVidia is pwning face right now.

By the way, I just bought an E6850 3.0Ghz Core 2 Duo chip.

D15AV0W3D's picture

Good googly moogly, that’s

Good googly moogly, that's a sweet processor. If only I had the money.... ;)

When do the 45nm chips hit the shelves? Not that I'd immediately be in the market for one, but it'd be interesting to keep an eye on how they do.

D15AV0W3D's picture

mobo temp sensors

I don't know if you've used the Asus diagnostics that came with your board, but it seems the temp readouts are higher than actual. I don't know if it's the sensors, or the program reads them improperly.

I'm in the same boat, as I have the same board, so I'm going to flash my BIOS soon, to the newest version from Asus, then try an updated version of their diagnostic software, and compare that with a program called Speedfan, and see if that yields anything different.

I haven't overclocked yet (AMD 64x2 4200 @ 2.2GHz), as I'm still running stock heatsink/fan, but when I get that replaced, I plan to.

rapture's picture

I was amazed that I could

I was amazed that I could flash my BIOS via a USB thumbstick without any hardware hooked up to the board (so that means no hdd with an OS on it).

rapture's picture

Reportedly 45nm hits Q1

Reportedly
45nm hits Q1 2008.
32nm hits 2010.
22nm hits 2011.

Midnight's picture

Nanometers

I thought Slayer had been sporting 45nm since 1987.

Slayer's picture

You know, when I saw the

You know, when I saw the subject "nanometers", for some reason, I saw that coming.

I gotta admit, though, it's funny.

Midnight's picture

Nanometers

He really lobbed that one up in the air for someone to take a swing at. Sorry you had to be the recipient. I'm sure you understand.

Slayer's picture

Of course. Who else?

Of course. Who else?

Who else springs to mind?

The first two I thought of when you asked that question was Shyzza and J-Dogg. In that order. I have no idea why.

JDOGG85's picture

Yeah, I’m not sure what I

Yeah, I'm not sure what I can add to midnights statement to make it any better. Though, if the market trend is to shrink the size every other year then that means slayer is most likely setting the benchmark when it comes to the smallest processor out there. I will not research it any farther...extremely small font leads to squinting, which in turn leads to my eyes and head hurting.

Mintz's picture

I’ve got the stock HSF. Of

I've got the stock HSF. Of course I monitor the temps with Speedfan. The CPU runs at sub-40C idle, ~48C loaded (never more than 50C). Last weekend, I stupidly tried OCing to 2.4GHz in one big jump, and my PC crashed (as in, I had to reinstall the OS), and the temp didn't even reach 50C. So I don't think it's the cooling, and even if it is, I'm not shelling out ~$50 for a copper HSF.

Mintz's picture

Can you match up different

Can you match up different size memory GPUs for SLI? Like a 512MB card + 256MB card?

Wow! That's one super-freakin'-pizzazz-whoo-daz-a-diddly-doo-wop she-blargen-doodle hummanuh-hummanuh-hummanuh fast processor!

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