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1080p Dilemma

Submitted by Midnight on Mon, 07/09/2007 - 1:56pm.

I'm trying to find a way to view 1080p HD-DVDs for the lowest cost. Now that I have a 1080p TV (or will on Wednesday) I would like to take advantage of it for watching HD-DVDs. I currently possess one Xbox 360 Premium and no HD-DVD addon. However, even if I purchase the HD-DVD addon, the best I can hope for is 720p because it isn't an Elite with an HDMI output, and my TV (like most known to man) won't accept 1080p via component. The TV also does not have a VGA input to accept 1920x1080p60 via that route. The options I can think of:

1. Buy the HD-DVD addon for my 360 premium. Live with 720p HD-DVDs.
Cost: $200
Benefit: ability to watch HD-DVDs at 720p

2. Buy an Elite + HD-DVD addon
Cost: $680
Benefit: another 360 for lanning inside my house and ability to watch HD-DVDs via 1080p. But did you see the price?!?

3. Buy a HD-DVD player that outputs 1080p
Cost: ~$300 but no extra 360
Benefit: HD-DVDs via 1080p

4. Buy a PS3 at the new $499 price point and watch Blu-Ray movies
Cost: $500
Benefit: Ability to watch Blu-Ray movies at 1080p and play PS3 games, if any are ever released that I'd like to play.

Actually, after typing this out, I've decided to go with option 1 unless a meteor full of cash lands on my lawn this afternoon. I'll still create the topic for everyone to discuss this connundrum.

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I have actually seriously

I have actually seriously been thinking about convincing my dad to buy an HD-DVD addon for my 360. My sister is very much interested in being able to watch High-Def DVDs. I had considered, and now am almost certain, that buying an addon might be a good choice.

This may sound stupid, and I am admittedly stupid when it comes to screen resolutions and High-Def jargon, but how would a computer monitor work with HD-DVDs?

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Sometimes you can catch the

Sometimes you can catch the HD-DVD players where they come with a deal where you can get 5 free HD-DVD's by mail after buying. That would be a little over $150 worth of dvd's I believe, though it would also depend on which movies were options for it. If they were movies you would like then you could be saving some money at first. Or if the elite drops in price maybe try selling your premium 360 on ebay maybe bundled with a game or 2 and you might be able to come out just a little in the hole. I have been debating the HD-DVD add-on vs. HD-DVD player...1080p means little to me right now due to my native 720p lcd tv, so it's either add-on for $200 or HD-DVD player with 5 movies for $300+. Though that deal is not weekly and maybe not even monthly so it complicates matters even more.

What about the VGA adapter

What about the VGA adapter for the 360? Would this work?

Me personally, I'm for none of the above until a single format is decided on. I understand the appeal to jump the gate though. I recently caught "Chinatown" on HDNet Movies, movies like this make me want a HD player. However the current HD catalog is filled more with titles like "Norbit" than "Chinatown".

As for the options above I'd go with 2. The standalone HD-DVD player is more like $250 now, maybe less. Not much more than the 360 add-on, plus the 360 is loud as all hell for watching movies. I'm guessing that is still the case with the HD-DVD add-on.

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Monitor and HD-DVD

A computer monitor is just a display device. Like all display devices, the main factors for consideration (for the purposed of your question) are
1. What is it's native resolution?
2. What inputs does it accept?
3. Can the input support the resolution you want to run?

The answer to #2 always includes VGA for computer monitors, and the 360 has a VGA cable, so you're good. VGA supports 1920x1080 @ 60hZ (1080p) so you're good there too.

The only question is #1. If your monitor has a native resolution (the physical matrix of pixels built into the display) of 640x480 then you can feed it 1080p all day long and it won't display the resolution the source is capable of. If the native resolution is 1366x768 then you'll be able to display a "high-definition" resolution (~720p). To get the full resolution of 1080p you'll need a monitor that displays 1920x1080 or better. A monitor with a higher resolution can always upscale a lower res input (my 1680x1050 monitor running 1366x768 from my 360), but not always the opposite.

Now, to answer your question more directly: Your 22" monitor is 1680x1050 and can't most likely can't display 1080p (1680x1080). You can run it at the 720p equivalent, which is still hi-def and still looks great, but you don't need anything other than a plain-jane 360 (no elite required).

The problem is those of us with 1080p capable displays that don't accept 1920x1080 via VGA or component. HDMI is the preferred way to transfer 1080p these days, so I can't view 1080p without an HDMI output.

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How about (if your TV has a

How about (if your TV has a VGA input) you buy a $40 VGA cable for your 360 and watch upscaled DVDs? It's the cheapest solution.

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#5: Buy third-party add-on

#5: Buy third-party add-on cable for non-Elite to achieve 1080p via HDMI: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/25/third-party-hdmi-cable-coming-for-non-elite-xbox-360/

Or is that not a real option.

I wouldn't buy an Elite until we learn about the 65nm Elites that will be rolling out later (perhaps this holiday season).

Also, there might be more news later this week at E3 about HDMI and the 360.

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Third Party Adapter

That looks pretty neat. I hope it isn't a hoax.

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VGA

My TV doesn't have a VGA input. Many HDTVs that do have VGA inputs do not accept widescreen resolutions via VGA. It's strange, but something I've found to be true in my research. There are plenty that do, but you can't assume.

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