Gears Ladder at TWL

There are highly competitive leagues for online video gaming. Then there are casually competitive leagues for online gaming.

THX is a group of casual gamers. For the most part, THX would be best fit in a casual gaming league like TeamWarfare League.

While MLG would be fun, it will require a lot of effort, time, and commitment to be successful. It will be highly competitive with other teams drawing blood at all costs. On a side note, MLG will require at least $52 ($65 if you had just one backup player) per team that\'s entered in the tournament. That\'s just one tournament that will last several weeks. Want to play in the next tournament? Then feel free to pay more money to play.

TWL is still competitive, but it is more laid back and their are more teams in TWL. TWL is free to play. Instead of going in headfirst into MLG, TWL would be a better starting point for THX.

TWL offers a tournament league and ladder league. I suggest THX start on the ladder.

The tournament league will have a set schedule with 1 to 2 games per week. At the end of the season will be a playoff seasons. A TWL GoW tournament has been going on for several weeks already. Many teams have a dozen games under their belts. Many teams have over 50 scrimmages under their belts. However, there\'s always next season.

A ladder system is an open-ended season where teams are ranked from 1 (the top) to the bottom. Teams on the bottom challenge teams on the top to play. If a lower ranked team beats a higher ranked team, then that lower ranked team moves up the ladder. Rinse, wash, and repeat. Eventually, the teams that win the most will end up toward the top of the ladder.

Scheduling matches are a matter of hopping on IRC or sending an email. IRC works best for quick results. Email-based scheduling is slow and leads to many forfeits.

Rosters on TWL can be quite large. Basically, all of THX could be on the same roster. THX could play whenever they want and move up the boards. Note how similar this is to the H2 Clan rankings that used to be listed on Bungie.net.

I would like to be on the roster if THX plays in the GoW ladder at TWL. If there is any interest let your voice be known here.

THX could start playing in TWL tonight if enough were registered.

If there are any THX\'ers that want to get really serious about playing GoW competitively and playing long term, then MLG is the best place to be. That\'s where the best competition will eventually be. However, you should also start on other leagues to get embedded into a community to start finding scrims against other teams in order to practice for MLG.

TWL - http://teamwarfare.com

Midnight's picture

I would like to do this. The large roster with any four people playing does sound a lot like the H2 clan system, which works out well for us.

Are you [cG] rapture? I registered as THX Midnight, and then requested change to [THX] Midnight to match this convention.

It appears one of us should create a team for THX. Does it matter who? If not, I\'ll do it tonight. It appears you are welcome to jump into the GoW ladder late, you just forfeit points not earned, so we\'d have no chance of winning this season. However, their forum looks like a good place to meet players and schedule scrims.

FoulBreed's picture

This is just to display my interest and should be treated as such.

Oculus's picture

Interested. Someone let me know what you come up with.

This is actually real cool for me. I never knew this stuff existed until these threads.

sparda's picture

FoulBreed wrote:

This is just to display my interest and should be treated as such.

ha...ha...ha

rapture's picture

Midnight: you seem to have the most desire for this venture so I suggest you create the team and issue the invites. I think all in THX should j up if they are interested in playing against other good teams.

I\'ll have to look up my username on that site. Not sure what it is.

I have spoken in regard to previous posts in this thread. I shall adjourn until a later posting and wish not to be bothered until such.

Slayer's picture

...sell outs. j/k :)

I\'m interested.

Mintz's picture

FoulBreed wrote:

This is just to display my interest and should be treated as such.
:iagree:

Slayer's picture

Wow, when I went to register I was reminded, I used to play on TWL ladders for Americas Army. I was in a clan called Dead Cell or }{DC}{. Yeah, I didn\'t play very much, but I did a few times. Those were fun times. I still see some of those guys playing AA. It was a crappy clan though, very much inactive now. I had totally forgotten.

D4R3 B34R's picture

i\'m interested.

Midnight's picture

Team is created. It\'s called, surprise, The Hushed Casket. Apparently to join you need only to know the password: undead

Everyone register and j-up. At this rate we could be doing scrims this weekend.

Slayer's picture

I don\'t see a join option. What do I need to do? My name is THX Slayer, but I requested a change to [THX] Slayer.

FoulBreed's picture

Registered now.

Midnight: I cannot see how to join either. When I went and looked at other teams, I was able to view their roster and there was additionally a \"join\" button available for the clicking. Only the THX profile is visible when I look at the team page. Please advise. Over.

Midnight's picture

OK, I think you have to enroll the team in a competition in order for players to join. The two GOW competitions right now are 1) a 4v4 tournament that has been going on for a while, with two divisions that appear to be full and 2) a GOW power ladder

I enrolled THX in the power ladder. This doesn\'t sign us up for any matches. After we get our roster we can challenge any team at will. Points are awarded to winner and loser based on adding and subtracting from the default 1000 points you start with. The team with the most points is #1. Pretty simple.

I think everyone should be able to join now. Let me know if I\'m wrong and I\'ll dive back in.

Rules for the GOW power ladder:
http://www.teamwarfare.com/rules.asp?set=XBox+360%3A+Gears+Of+War+%2D+Power+Ladder

Midnight's picture

The second post of this FAQ explains everything barney style:

http://www.teamwarfare.com/forums/showthread.asp?forumid=19&threadid=7523

I did have to join a ladder in order for others to join. You should now see the join button, after which you\'ll enter the join password: undead. It appears that the GUID part of your profile is unnecessary for Gears, according to this FAQ:

http://www.teamwarfare.com/forums/showthread.asp?forumid=19&threadid=141495

That appears to be a PC game thing. We should be gtg now.

Mintz's picture

I j\'ed up on the site.

rapture's picture

Hushed Casket on TWL: http://www.teamwarfare.com/viewteam.asp?team=The+Hushed+Casket

You can join any competition THX is playing in via that URL.

Midnight's picture

Thanks for the direct link, rap. I promoted you to captain, because you seem to know how this stuff works, and I am but a nub.

rapture's picture

Last night we had 6 people on the team. Those 6 can go ahead and challenge any team they want at any time.

sparda's picture

rapture wrote:

Last night we had 6 people on the team. Those 6 can go ahead and challenge any team they want at any time.

i\'m game

Midnight's picture

I thought only captains could challenge??

I say we cut our teeth by challenging one of the worse teams, like FGM or RG. When can 3-4 of us play?

I\'m down for anytime this weekend except Friday night (anniversary).

sparda's picture

i can play tonight if enough people get on, otherwise this weekend is good if its at night

Mintz's picture

I\'m free until Christmas

rapture's picture

Midnight wrote:

I thought only captains could challenge?

Unsure about WHO can do the challenging. Guessing that Captains are the ones that can officially challenge another team and get it in the system. Captains are probably also the ones that get e-mail notification when being challenged.

But, other players on the team can begin now contacting other teams and scheduling matches...even if it\'s just a scrim and not an official match.

Matches will take a while to schedule unless you are using instant messaging. So, don\'t expect to get 4 on Saturday evening and find a match in 30 minutes. Not only does our team have to have 4 players online, but the other team must also have 4 players online. It could be difficult to coordinate the matches.

Suggestion: Get 4 players on our team to commit to playing at a set time and Saturday and spam other teams for matches...either directly via IM when searching through the teams at the bottom...or enter the TWL forums and request a challenge.

Slayer's picture

I\'d be willing to play Sat.

Midnight's picture

How about 9 PM CST on Saturday for the scims? We can play before and after, but that would be the time for the actual scim. Roger up if you\'re good with that.

I\'m good.

Slayer's picture

I\'m up for it!

sparda's picture

roger........ and should be treated as such

Mintz's picture

Roger Roger

Midnight's picture

GTG, if I get no response by tonight from my email I\'ll go ahead and issue a challenge to the bottom two teams.

Midnight's picture

We\'ve been attacked.

http://www.teamwarfare.com/TeamScrimLadderAdmin.asp?ladder=Gears+of+War+%2D+Warzone+Power+&team=The+Hushed+Casket

The Road Top Hill Gang wants to play, surprisingly, on Saturday at 9 PM CST. I accepted their challenge. View the above link for the list of maps and comms between team captains.

Everyone please read the ladder rules before we start on Saturday:

http://www.teamwarfare.com/rules.asp?set=XBox+360%3A+Gears+Of+War+%2D+Power+Ladder

Oculus's picture

suddenly I have the overwhelming urge to protect this house

Oculus's picture

Ok, I\'m clear for Saturday 9PM Central if you decide you need me.

Your link is not working for me. Did the challenge state what maps, how many games and who hosts?

Midnight's picture

We host all matches as defender. The maps are

1. Gridlock
2. Warzone
3. Fuel Depot
4. Escalation
5. Tyro Station

I think we play best of three maps and the last two are there in case of a tie/dispute, etc. I think we get to mutually agree on the number of rounds in game. Gametype is whatever we agree on. I\'m going to push for execution.

JDOGG85's picture

I thought since we are in warzone ladder, the gametype is always warzone?

Mintz's picture

No, I think the teams get to pick the gametype/rounds according to the rules Middy posted.

THX SHYZZA's picture

I j\'d up.

Midnight's picture

Warzone is just the clever name of the ladder. According to the rules...which are linked above...any gametype is permissible as long as both team captains agree on it. If we can\'t agree then the match is cancelled.

Slayer's picture

So what is the roster for tonight? or do we have one? :? I mean... I am willing and would love to play, but so would others I am sure. So I was curious as to who the captains, or whoever, decided is going to play? I don\'t want to cause any problems by making assumptions.

Midnight's picture

Slayer, good question. I really don\'t know how to make a fair rotation with an emphasis on winning this early in the game. I don\'t know whether we\'re gonna mutilate or get mutilated. The first people to post in this thread were:

EA
Midnight
FoulBreed
Oculus

Followed by
Sparda
Slayer
Mintz
Dare Bear
JDOGG
Shyzza

I say we play the first four and if someone doesn\'t make it from that four we put in Sparda, Slayer, etc. I would encourage everyone to be online at 9 PM and ready for an invite. After the match, win or lose, I would like everyone in a pre-game lobby for a post-game hotwash to share lessons learned and discuss the next match. If others can stay around we could do some customs, although I will have to leave.

I will be on a little early to warm up and make contact with the other captain.

rapture's picture

I\'m 90% out. Rather someone else that\'s 100% available play in my place.

Slayer's picture

I will not be able ot make it. I am going to a movie. Sorry.

Mintz's picture

I\'ll be available.

Midnight's picture

Roger. If sparda doesn\'t make it then you\'re in, Mintz.

Mintz's picture

Crap, my sister\'s flight got delayed, so we have to pick her up later than expected :( I can\'t make it, sorry.

Travelling during the holidays...

Midnight's picture

I\'d like to congratulate all of tonight\'s players on a solid, sportsmanlike match. I also want to give props to FoulBreed, Oculus, and Sparda for really bringing the pain for THX\'s first TWL victory--to the tune of 18:2 rounds won:lost. Check out the screencaps.

The RTHG acted professionally and was very helpful is helping me figure out exactly how TWL works in practice. I hope our future competition acts as professionally as they did.

Points that I think got us the win:
1. Communication. We were obviously talking more than the enemy. They would often split and leave 3v2 and 4v2 scenarios.
2. Trust. AT one point Oculus told me to roll off the helo pad, and he sounded emphatic. I was engaging an enemy, and I had no idea why, but I did it. Someone had flanked me from the rear of the helo. I rolled off, we double teamed him, gg.
3. Telling someone when they\'re alone, you\'re downed, etc. Part of communication, but FB\'s shout from the cars at Gridlock directed our fires onto the remaining two locusts and we finished them off 3v2.
4. There were no all stars. Regardless of the points in each match, every single player was vital to our success in every round.

GG, guys. I\'m really looking forward to TWL now. Tomorrow I\'m gonna take a look at what teams RTHG has beaten and challenge them.

sparda's picture

i was very impressed with the way we all played since we never played warzone as a team before. Congrats to midnight, foulbreed, and oculus. gg. hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

Slayer's picture

Very nice, guys!

Mintz's picture

Whoo, THX All Starz! zomg!

Midnight's picture

When\'s the next time we can have 4 players available for a match?

I\'m planning on challenging FGM and RG, two of the lower-ranked teams. Wins there would possibly give us enough points to be #1. The team we beat tonight, RTHG, beat both of those teams. As a matter of fact, RTHG beat FGM as hard as we beat RTHG.

I\'m good for pretty much any night between now and 3 Jan.

Oculus's picture

GG THX. We put down a woopin.

I\'m good for another. I think host advantage only helped us on a couple of rounds last game. I should be available nights from Dec. 27th to Jan. 3rd. Before and after that is possible too, but I don\'t know yet.

A suggestion: We\'ve got 11 people on the team, do we need a second THX team? Or at least, do we need to participate in another tourney or ladder (if their is one) and have people jumping back and forth (this might be the best option, because we then get to still pool all of us together). It is possible to join the tournament late, we\'d just have to forfeit the three or so games we\'ve missed.

A note on the gametype. I didn\'t read anywhere that said that the gametype had to be warzone for the ladder. I know that the guys we played last night have been playing warzone in the tournament because it\'s required there, so maybe that\'s why they said they wanted warzone. I also think that the warzone gametype actually helped us a little, because of the way that we play. I enjoyed having the Torque bow and Hammer of Dawn removed from the maps. I think it promoted teamwork a little better, and I liked not having to fight over power weapons (although I don\'t mind a challenge).

sparda's picture

i\'m ready when you need me.

Mintz's picture

Midnight wrote:

When\'s the next time we can have 4 players available for a match?

I\'m planning on challenging FGM and RG, two of the lower-ranked teams. Wins there would possibly give us enough points to be #1. The team we beat tonight, RTHG, beat both of those teams. As a matter of fact, RTHG beat FGM as hard as we beat RTHG.

I\'m good for pretty much any night between now and 3 Jan.

That doesn\'t sound fair. It sounds like you just want to slaughter a team.

Midnight's picture

I do want to slaughter a team, but I want to do it fairly.

Since when did anyone win a war by playing nice? I fight my strengths against others\' weaknesses. Friendly surfaces against enemy gaps. Find critical vulnerabilities and exploit them. Trample the weak, hurdle the dead.

On a more directly relevant note, the ladder is based on points. Eventually the top teams will have to play each other in order to take #1. Until then, the smart thing to do is build a base of points so future losses don\'t impact us as harshly, if they come. We also want to play the lesser teams before they lose more games to others and the points value of beating them goes down.

This is my first ladder, but that\'s my analysis. Any other opinions?

Mintz's picture

Midnight wrote:

On a more directly relevant note, the ladder is based on points. Eventually the top teams will have to play each other in order to take #1. Until then, the smart thing to do is build a base of points so future losses don\'t impact us as harshly, if they come. We also want to play the lesser teams before they lose more games to others and the points value of beating them goes down.

That makes sense.

Midnight's picture

Just looked and the #1 team is #1 because they\'ve beat FGM, the whipping boys of the ladder...twice. It\'s a thinking man\'s game.

Oculus's picture

I noticed that. It looks like we\'re being attacked as well by A-tod.

Midnight's picture

Second match is done. THX wins again and moves into 1st on the ladder (albeit, by beating the bottom two teams). We are being attacked by ATOD, and they have a much more impressive record than our previous teams. That should prove to be a challenging match.

Slayer's picture

Nice job, guys!

FoulBreed's picture

Is there a way to view results of our matches on the TWL site? Can I view results for other teams? How did FGM know how badly we pwn3d RTHG?

Great job last night, guys. It was much fun. I\'m looking forward to playing the A-ToD. They are also on a 2 win streak, IIRC.

Oculus's picture

You should be able to click on the team and go to a link under the team description that says \'match history\'

Midnight's picture

ditto, match history under team profile

FoulBreed's picture

Thanks, guys. You wouldn\'t believe how many times I scanned right over that.

sparda's picture

when is the match with ATOD?

Oculus's picture

I did the same thing for the pending match dates, and the anti-smurf identifiers. The site has great functionality, but the usability needs an overhaul. It looks like they started adding features, and before long it got hard to navigate.

Midnight's picture

Match with ATOD is unscheduled. We have started match comms, but the other captain has not replied with the date and time he wants.

FB, please remember to add your gamertag as an anti-smurf identifier.

+1 on TWL being difficult to navigate

FoulBreed's picture

Midnight wrote:

FB, please remember to add your gamertag as an anti-smurf identifier.

Thanks for the reminder. I took care of that this morning.

Oculus's picture

We have been passed on the TWL ladder, Team v3 v3 is the one, and they have challenged us as well I believe. Does anyone know what the status is on who is playing any of these matches?

Midnight's picture

I do not believe anyone has successfully coordinated a match since we last played. I would be interested in playing some more on TWL. MLG has been enough to keep me busy thus far, so now that it's over I can see switching back to TWL.

rapture's picture

Match results? I haven't seen the last few match results posted to the site, let alone write-ups of the games.

Is this something that you guys will or will not be doing in the future?

Oculus's picture

From last view, I believe we are only lacking a post for 2 matches. And both of those games were from this week.

rapture's picture

Yep, those are one's I'm talking about. Those of us that aren't playing are actually interested in the results.

Oculus's picture

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